Lisa Hadfield-Law and Ronnie Davies reflect on legacy, change, and the future of surgical education

Lisa Hadfield-Law and Ronnie Davies reflections

L-R: Jane Thorley Wiedler (AO Education Institute, Faculty Development), Lisa Hadfield-Law, and Ronnie Davies at the AO Foundation Faculty Education Program (FEP) in Leeds, February 2025

 

For over three decades, Lisa Hadfield-Law has shaped, mentored and inspired AO educators around the world. In this special interview, we mark a pivotal moment: the transition of faculty development leadership in AO UK & Ireland to Ronnie Davies. More than a handover, this conversation is an expression of shared values, honest reflection, and commitment to educational excellence.

Ronnie Davies
Ronnie: How do you feel about approaching the end of your professional career?
Lisa Hadfield-Law
Lisa: I see that my colleagues struggle to make this shift. Many feel strongly that they’ve spent decades acquiring wisdom and experience, which is invaluable to the next generation.  I guess we all consider the golden years to be those where we have been at our most energetic, capable and powerful. As all that fades inevitably as we age and at the same time children leave home and our physical strength wanes, it can be so difficult to accept that it’s time for others to take our place.  

Knowing all this, I am approaching retirement with a mix of optimism and realism.  I have consciously tried to actively change how I perceive myself and taper off my contributions to professional discussions and plans.  Inevitably, my profile is diminishing too, so whenever I experience that slightly bereft feeling, I grab hold of it and remind myself (sometimes out loud) “It’s time…everyone has a shelf life…and I want to be away before my shelf life is up”.

Ronnie Davies
Ronnie: What are your professional plans for the next few years?
Lisa Hadfield-Law
Lisa: I shall spend the next 3 years of my career focusing on leadership development. I’ve spent the last five years running leadership programs for surgeons through the British Orthopaedic Association and the Royal College of Surgeons of Edinburgh. Some of these programs run over a year, featuring both virtual and face-to-face meetings over that year. Others are 15-hour programs run entirely virtually and include surgeons from across the globe in cohorts of 16. 

This has proved more flexible and accessible for those who are limited in their opportunities to leave their home and their practice. I’ve become increasingly interested in differential attainment and the inequalities of opportunity for clinicians worldwide. AO courses are a good example; these are open to individuals who have personal resources or work at institutions and in countries where funding is available. One of the initiatives here in the UK and Ireland is the opportunity to join AO Introductory Days for Medical students. Many of those places are funded by AO members and faculty. When they come across students interested in trauma and orthopaedics, they fund the 100 CHF place on the course.

Ronnie Davies
Ronnie: What advice would you give to AO faculty now and for the future?
Lisa Hadfield-Law

Lisa: Just as with aspects of fracture management, there is a temptation to engage with exciting new technical gizmos and lose sight of basic principles. Whilst there may indeed be opportunities for augmented, virtual and mixed reality learning, this continues to be experimental and expensive. More affordable and accessible opportunities for faculty development are available now. 

Spaced learning, also known as spaced repetition, is an educational strategy that distributes learning over time, rather than cramming content into a short period. This approach leverages the psychological spacing effect, which suggests that spacing out learning events enhances memory retention and recall.  How could we integrate this into our current programmes, often seductively short and focused? The reality is that firing information and experiences into our audiences over a 2,3 or 4-day course feels efficient but can be likened to trying to sip water from a fire hose. 

Similarly, interleaving is a learning strategy that involves mixing different topics or types of problems during our programme instead of focusing on one topic or type of problem at a time (known as blocking). This enhances learning and retention by promoting better integration of knowledge and skills, encouraging the brain to engage in problem-solving across various contexts. So perhaps the way we construct our programmes, both synchronous and asynchronous, should be reviewed with this in mind. The learning logs we have created may be structured more effectively.

Our feedback needs some work, too.  We have made significant inroads into providing structured opportunities for learning but could be rather pedestrian and dated in our approaches to feedback.  Just telling learners what they are doing “right” or “wrong” can’t be considered a feedback conversation.  It was you, Ronnie, who challenged my use of Pendleton’s rules around what went well and next time and introduced me to the Advocacy with Inquiry model.  Pendleton's Rules and Advocacy Inquiry are both frameworks used to facilitate feedback; Pendleton's Rules are primarily focused on providing structured feedback but rarely delve deeply into the "why" behind feedback and can feel formulaic or prescriptive if used without genuine engagement.

Advocacy with Inquiry, conversely, is a conversational and collaborative approach that focuses on engaging in a dialogue about performance, understanding different perspectives, and finding solutions together. It typically involves two components:

1. Advocacy: clearly stating one's own viewpoint, suggestions, evaluations or observation, but without judgement.
2. Inquiry: actively engaging others in dialogue to understand their perspectives, thoughts, and feelings.

Maybe integrating aspects of both approaches would work for AO faculty.

Ronnie Davies

Ronnie: Yes, whether on the giving or receiving end of feedback, I (like many trainers and trainees) find Pendleton to be a bit contrived. 

To take the “advocacy” part further, it can be quite natural to make an observation instead and ask about it. 

For example, you might say something like:
[advocacy] “I noticed that your drill slipped off as you made the pilot hole.
[enquiry 1] Do you know why that might have happened?
[follow up question] What can be done to prevent that next time?”

By using this model, the participant might consider whether they used the drill parallel to the bone, whether they used a drill guide, or other reasons for the drill slipping. By working through the thought process themselves, they can be supported to come up with a plan to prevent it, rather than being told to “drill parallel and use a drill guide”, aiming at enhancing retention and problem-solving.

Lisa Hadfield-Law
Lisa: And how about evaluation?  A significant amount of time and effort from participants and course organisers goes into gathering numbers and creating graphs. What is the value? How can we act on this information? Whether I get a 1 or a 5, what can I do with that? Except feel either elated or deflated. I have no insight into the rationale for the score and will then try to guess, which is rarely helpful.  Maybe we should be having more useful feedback conversations between faculty and participants, DURING our programme.
Ronnie Davies
Ronnie: Yes, I really like that.  LIVE evaluation.  Even if just one table does an in-depth evaluation per session, akin to a focus group, we would get some great information before the details are lost.  It may even be possible to make changes on the fly during a course.  Why wait until next time?
Lisa Hadfield-Law
Lisa: Ronnie, what are your observations with a relatively new pair of eyes? 
Ronnie Davies
Ronnie: My first observation concerns the impact that you have had on surgical training, both within and outside of AO.  Many surgical trainers have your voice in their head, or at least your principles, whether they know it or not!  This is something to be built upon – having clear and actionable principles that can be easily remembered and used in the workplace.  It is easy to be seduced and contaminated by educational jargon, and my first observation is that within AO, you have made this accessible to all faculty.
Lisa Hadfield-Law
Lisa: What will be your priorities for AO UK and Ireland?
Ronnie Davies
Ronnie: I am very aware that we face a very different population of orthopaedic trainees and faculty.  They are not “like we were” and nor should they be.  I am therefore very mindful that we should ensure our offerings benefit today’s trainees and faculty.  As you mentioned earlier, basic principles are important and do not change significantly, so my priority is to adhere to these principles.  I have slightly different priorities for faculty education and surgeon education programmes.
Lisa Hadfield-Law
Lisa: What do you think can be changed in surgeon education?
Ronnie Davies

Ronnie: My main concern for surgeon education stems from the fact that it is no longer novel to practise fixing synthetic bones, and several competing courses purport to offer similar learning to AO courses.  Coupled with the fact that UK & Ireland orthopaedic training programmes no longer mandate an AO Principles course, I think that we need to innovate to maintain top spot in learning fracture fixation.  

This starts with thinking about a key skill which need to be learned but is not currently taught:  visuospatial skills using image intensification.  For example, the most important step of performing a DHS is guide wire placement, yet this cannot be practised on AOUK&I courses at present.  There are similar issues with distal locking experience.  I hope to look at how we can use some basic technology to give course participants practice of these important skills to boost the relevance of courses.

I would also like to freshen up some of the content by making it as close to “real life” as possible.  Initial thoughts include starting the day with a “trauma meeting” to discuss the types of fractures that will be fixed in some more context.  Your point about spaced learning is also very important and I wonder whether there are some ways that we can extend the course to an AO Portfolio of learning over a longer period.

Lisa Hadfield-Law
Lisa: I love this idea… so, should we make more of our course simulation-based?  It’s now widely accepted that the closer we can get to reality, the more likely it is that we can use what we have learned in practice.  That’s often referred to as high fidelity.  Some mistakenly believe that “high fidelity” is synonymous with hi-tech, but of course it isn’t.
Ronnie Davies
Ronnie: I agree – we have some low-hanging fruit for adding some realism and context.  I think that will help course participants to identify the common situations in which they can use the many techniques that they learn on courses.
Lisa Hadfield-Law
Lisa: What are your thoughts about faculty development?
Ronnie Davies

Ronnie: Faculty development has already been through many iterations and I am confident that it prepares AO UK&I faculty better than ever.  We are working on fine-tuning the practical exercise further, and that remains my priority. 

My long-term goal is to develop a faculty education programme that closely reflects both the preparation and activities required of faculty members. 

I look forward to working with Dan and Ian on this over the coming years.  I would also like to look at how our new coaches fit into this.

Lastly, my overarching priority is to communicate with AO and existing faculty so that any issues can be addressed and we can work together to maintain the high standards of this fantastic institution.

Praise for Lisa Hadfield-Law

Rodrigo Pesantez

“She changed me as an educator and as a person,” writes Rodrigo Pesantez from Colombia. 

Amal Khoury

Amal Khoury from Israel praises her humor and clarity: “Even the most complex topics seemed simple with Lisa.” 

Teija Lund

Teija Lund from Finland shared, “Lisa believed in me and helped make the world a better place through education.”